Blessings to all who are not silenced and choose to take a stand!
Sea Breeze
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Where Are We as a XJW Community?
by Sea Breeze in.
blessings to all who are not silenced and choose to take a stand!.
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New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans
by Sea Breeze in"the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.
they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".
yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.
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Sea Breeze
@TonusOH - Here's a "scientific" study that says the earth formed much faster than previously thought.
And this study suggests Mars is made of moving tectonic plates just like earth. So, how can secular scientists be sure that Mars was once covered by water and Earth was not completely covered in water above the mountains as Genesis maintains?
Just looking at pictures of the two planets side by side makes that certitude seem absurd. Secular scientists wouldn't flat out lie to protect an anti-biblical bias would they?
This study notes:
"By selectively excluding study subjects or amending the experimental procedure after designing the study, researchers in the field may be subtly biasing studies to get more positive findings. And once research results are published, journals have little incentive to publish replication studies, which try to check the results.
That means the psychology literature may be littered with effects, or conclusions, that aren't real. [Oops! 5 Retracted Science Studies]
The problem isn't unique to psychology, but the [scientific] field is going through some soul-searching right now. Researchers are creating new initiatives to encourage replication studies"...
Another study notes:
"Among the more than 2,000 retracted life science papers that researchers reviewed in this study, only about 20 percent were retracted because of honest errors. A whopping 70 percent were pulled as a result of scientific misconduct -- that is, lying, cheating and/or stealing".
So, what can be done to combat the documented bias, lying and stealing that goes on in the scientific community? How is the average person supposed to know which scientific studies are false, and which ones are true?
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New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans
by Sea Breeze in"the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.
they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".
yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.
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Sea Breeze
"The new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep. They may have been up to one kilometre deep."
Yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in Genesis.
Does that make sense to you?
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Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination
by Tahoe inhttps://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination .
the jehovah’s witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the religious organization informed trouw.
they consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.. utrecht university conducted the investigation involved, following publications in trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the jehovah’s witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in january 2020. utrecht university concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the jehovah’s witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.. sander dekker, then the minster for legal protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the jehovah’s witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the catholic church did at the time with the deetman commission.. the jehovah’s witnesses cooperated in the utrecht university investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results.
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Sea Breeze
A religious organization suing the state is “fairly unique,” Paul van Sasse van IJsselt, a special professor on law and religion, told Trouw. But he isn’t surprised. The Jehovah’s Witnesses litigate a lot in Europe against government interference and have often been successful in the European Court, he said.
They litigate a lot everywhere else too. In the USA, they WT won the right to disregard the bible and make their children misfit freaks in front of their peers for not honoring the flag of their respective countries.
Romans 1
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
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Jesus never existed!!
by jw_uncovered inbuddha of india .
he performed miracles and raised one man, el-azar-us, from the dead.
the sun is the "light of the world.
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Sea Breeze
There are Roman documents that support the existence of Jesus
peacefulpete says: "no there isn't"
Except for all the Roman documents that support the existence of Jesus right?
Reminds me a funny Donall and Conall episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4FHHf00pY&t=239s&ab_channel=LutheranSatire
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Japan Probe into Child Rearing Practices of JW's
by Sea Breeze inapparently in response to the probe of jw's in japan, the wt is seeking positive stories of jw's child-rearing practices:.
from reditt: .
re: urgent: request for assistance.
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Sea Breeze
Thanks for that link WANB !
I will be writing my experience growing up as a JW and sending it to them. I would ljke to encourage anyone who grew up a JW to do the same. We owe it to our neighbor and posterity. -
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How Saturnalia became Christmas
by BoogerMan inthe transition from ancient to present and pagan to christian: .
4th century ce, after which a new winter holiday began to be celebrated in rome: christmas.
but how was the pagan festival of saturnalia celebrated, and how did it influence and morph into the christmas celebrations that we know and love?.
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Sea Breeze
@Boogerman
Matthew 2:1 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi a from the east came to Jerusalem 2and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”
3When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. ...
9After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen when it rose went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. 10When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.
The star took them first to Jerusalem apparently for advertising purposes. Then, the same star led them to the house of Mary and Joseph. Jesus would have been nearly a toddler by this time.
Things happened exactly as God wanted them to.
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How Saturnalia became Christmas
by BoogerMan inthe transition from ancient to present and pagan to christian: .
4th century ce, after which a new winter holiday began to be celebrated in rome: christmas.
but how was the pagan festival of saturnalia celebrated, and how did it influence and morph into the christmas celebrations that we know and love?.
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Sea Breeze
I agree with iloowy.goowy.
I don't believe that Saturnalia (December 17th) has anything to do with Christmas, and neither did Hippolytus, an early Christian leader from the 2nd century. He named December 25th as the birthday of Jesus. He was a first class historian and Christian. Hippolytus was a disciple of Irenaeus, Irenaeus of Polycarp, and Polycarp of the Apostle John.
His work The Refutation of Heresies cannot be overestimated and in it he details early heresies in chronological order.
The enemies of Christ do not want his birtday (or mission to redeem man) remembered. Nothing has changed in 2000 years.
Where I live in Texas, it is slightly farther north than Jeresalem. Yet, it frequently doesn't freeze here until January, some years not at all. Sheep are busy grazing here on December 25th just as they were when the angels announced the most amazing event in all of history to humble shepherds.
Gotta love God's style. Imagine if the WT was used. They would haved have rented out the Colosseum in Rome, printed chariot loads of papyrus tracts and would have irritated people by the millions while they were sleeping in on Saturday mornings.
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Japan Probe into Child Rearing Practices of JW's
by Sea Breeze inapparently in response to the probe of jw's in japan, the wt is seeking positive stories of jw's child-rearing practices:.
from reditt: .
re: urgent: request for assistance.
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Sea Breeze
Apparently in response to the probe of JW's in Japan, the WT is seeking positive stories of JW's child-rearing practices:
From Reditt:
PID.DE@jw.org
To: pid.de@jw.org
RE: URGENT: Request for assistance
Dec 1, 2023 at 18:31:04 GMT
Dear sisters and brothers,
We are writing to you today about a sensitive and very urgent matter in which we would like to ask for your help.
In a short-term meeting today, we learned that we have the great privilege of assisting World Headquarters with a very important project.
What is the problem?
Our brothers and sisters in Japan are currently struggling with a serious problem: a new ministry, which has only been in office for about a year, unfortunately assumes that the child-rearing practices of Jehovah's Witnesses are harming the children and even constitute a form of "child abuse." represents. This is of course a worrying development.
How can you help?
We are looking for positive statements from authorities, but also from experts such as school directors, teachers, professors, academics, etc. e.g. B. on the following topics:
On the experience of raising children of parents who are Jehovah's Witnesses general (loving, caring, balanced upbringing, appropriate interest in children)
For material for children and young people on jw.org
About children of Jehovah's Witnesses (e.g. are not conspicuous at school, but are exemplary; do not take drugs, are not criminals; are well integrated, balanced, etc.)
About the positive contributions of our young people to society
We would be pleased if you would comment on these points in your respective role - if possible on an official letterhead that shows your current role. We are of course also very interested in further statements from outsiders. Can you perhaps think of colleagues or other people who could make well-founded statements in this context? If so, please contact these people as quickly as possible and ask them for a written statement (if possible on official letterhead). IMPORTANT: The desired statements, which do not have to be long, should not refer to Japan but rather the wording should be general. It is also best not to address a specific person but rather “to whom it may concern” (“Dear Sir or Madam” or “to the responsible authority”).
When addressing outsiders, you could justify the request by saying that a newly founded ministry in an Asian country that has no experience with Jehovah's Witnesses is prejudiced against Jehovah's Witnesses due to misinformation. our religious minority has. The European perspective would certainly be helpful to them, as they have had experience with Jehovah's Witnesses for decades. We ask you not to mention “Japan”, but to clarify the desired direction and the urgency of the request.
Deadline:
We need the statements within the next week.
We consider it a privilege to partner with you in this important effort to help “defend and legally establish the good news.”—Phil. 1:7. Please make this matter the subject of your personal prayers. We have full confidence that Jehovah will bless our joint efforts to bring glory to his name.—2 Cor. 10:4, 5; Isa. 54:17.
One final request: please treat the information confidentially and do not forward this email without consultation!
Thank you very much in advance for your valuable support and have a nice weekend
Your brothers
Central Europe branch office
Public relations
Am Steinfels 1, 65618 Selters (Taunus)
Email: pid.de@jw.org
Tel.: +49 6483 41-3110
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What has the Spiritual Paradise of the WTS been over time
by blondie inthe first mention i find in the wts publications is 1958. although the wts says the index goes from 1930 to 1985, nothing appears before 1958 a search only found by using the phrase "spiritual paradise" not in the index.
in 2015 there was a clarification of the phrase "of course, we should not conclude that the terms “spiritual paradise” and “spiritual temple” are the same.
the spiritual temple is god’s arrangement for true worship.".
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Sea Breeze
“Spiritual paradise” refers to the secure environment in which we worship Jehovah in unity. In this environment, we have an abundance of spiritual food that is free from religious lies
It wasn't much of a paradise for this elder (Arvid Einar Moody) from the Hyde Park Congregation on River St. in Hyde Park, MA. He believed the WT lie that he should not have a kidney transplant. As a result, he died in 1978. Too bad he couldn't make it two more years to 1980 when the WT lifted their ban on organ transplants.
He wasn't free from religious lies was he?
